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炳叔說得對(bluelyindas)

2009/11/04 20:04:26

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這種情況直接關掉引擎如何??😵

鯊很大(imprezafrank)

2009/11/04 20:07:32

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回應 kompressor (KOMPRESSOR) 所寫
NHTSA調查報告出爐....車主使用不當腳踏墊所致!😞
真是3人成虎啊~~~😰


兩者是不同的報導..
詳情請看M01的討論
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HWA(lee5751)

2009/11/04 20:09:12

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太可怕了! 😲
最愛騎車!!!

鯊很大(imprezafrank)

2009/11/04 20:12:01

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回應 imprezafrank (鯊很大) 所寫
回應 kompressor (KOMPRESSOR) 所寫
NHTSA調查報告出爐....車主使用不當腳踏墊所致!😞
真是3人成虎啊~~~😰


兩者是不同的報導..
詳情請看M01的討論


ABC做的報導
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8980024
天祐台灣

天空(sercom123)

2009/11/04 20:18:07

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回應 mk2_is_good (MK2) 所寫
有時間打電話是不能排到空檔慢慢拉手煞車嗎?😵


應該是先用"檔煞"後再手煞吧

~~~~~~~(kompressor)

2009/11/04 20:50:46

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真混亂;但這裡有最新NHTSA報告...2009.11.4 07:41AM

Report Date : November 4, 2009 at 07:41 AM
NHTSA Action Number : DP09001




N/A
NHTSA Action Number : DP09001 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
LEXUS / ES300 2002-2003

LEXUS / ES350 2007

Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
Component :
VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL

Date Investigation Opened : April 8, 2009
Date Investigation Closed : October 29, 2009
Summary:
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED DP09-001 ON APRIL 8, 2009, TO EVALUATE A DEFECT PETITION REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION OF POTENTIAL THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM DEFECTS UNRELATED TO FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE WITH ACCELERATOR PEDALS IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 LEXUS ES 350 VEHICLES. THE PETITIONER REFERENCED AN EARLIER ODI INVESTIGATION CONCERNING FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE WITH ACCELERATOR PEDAL RETURN (PE07-016/EA07-010), WHICH HE STATED WAS TOO NARROW IN SCOPE AS IT DID NOT INCLUDE ALL INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION AND CONSIDER ALL POTENTIAL CAUSES OF VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL CONCERNS. THE PETITION ALSO REQUESTED AN "INVESTIGATION OF MY 2002-2003 LEXUS ES300 FOR THOSE 'LONGER DURATION INCIDENTS INVOLVING UNCONTROLLABLE ACCELERATION WHERE BRAKE PEDAL APPLICATION ALLEGEDLY HAD NO EFFECT' THAT WERE DETERMINED NOT TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF INVESTIGATION PE04-021." AS BACKGROUND, THE PETITIONER OWNS A MY 2007 LEXUS ES350 THAT ALLEGEDLY EXPERIENCED AN UNWANTED AND UNCONTROLLED ACCELERATION EVENT (ODI COMPLAINT NUMBER 10261660). TOYOTA CONCLUDED THAT THE INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY AN UNSECURED FLOOR MAT. TO ASSESS THE PETITIONER'S REQUEST, ODI INTERVIEWED THE PETITIONER, INSPECTED HIS VEHICLE, REVIEWED INFORMATION SUBMITTED BY TOYOTA, REVIEWED OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND MATERIAL RELATED TO THE INVESTIGATIONS CITED BY THE PETITIONER. ODI IDENTIFIED 64 COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION IN MY 2007 LEXUS VEHICLES, RESULTING IN 8 CRASHES AND 15 INJURIES. ODI'S ANALYSIS OF THESE COMPLAINTS DETERMINED THAT 50 (78%) INVOLVED INCIDENTS OF FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE, INCLUDING 7 (88%) OF THE CRASHES AND ALL 15 INJURIES. THEREFORE, ODI'S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT THE ONLY DEFECT TREND RELATED TO VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES INVOLVED THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCELERATOR PEDALS TO BECOME TRAPPED NEAR THE FLOOR BY OUT-OF-POSITION OR INAPPROPRIATE FLOOR MAT INSTALLATIONS. ON OCTOBER 5, 2009, TOYOTA INITIATED A SAFETY RECALL (RECALL 09V-388) TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WITH POTENTIAL ACCELERATOR PEDAL ENTRAPMENT BY FLOOR MATS IN APPROXIMATELY 3.8 MILLION VEHICLES, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. EXCEPT INSOFAR AS THE PETITIONER'S CONTENTIONS RELATE TO THAT RECALL, THE FACTUAL BASES OF THE PETITIONER'S CONTENTIONS THAT ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS NECESSARY ARE UNSUPPORTED. IN OUR VIEW, ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN A FINDING THAT A DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY EXISTS OR A NHTSA ORDER FOR THE NOTIFICATION AND REMEDY OF A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT, AS ALLEGED BY THE PETITIONER, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE REQUESTED INVESTIGATION. THEREFORE, IN VIEW OF THE NEED TO ALLOCATE AND PRIORITIZE NHTSA'S LIMITED RESOURCES TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THE AGENCY'S SAFETY MISSION, THE PETITION IS DENIED. THIS ACTION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY NHTSA THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST. THE AGENCY WILL TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY FUTURE CIRCUMSTANCES. PLEASE SEE THE FEDERAL REGISTER NOTICE FOR FURTHER DETAILS.



鯊很大(imprezafrank)

2009/11/04 21:03:36

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轉貼自M01網友的PO
原文http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=346&t=1273677&p=1

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/safety-officials-runaway-toyota-issue-closed/story?id=8987811

9小時前ABC的新聞 "Safety Officials: Runaway Toyota Matter 'Is Not Closed'Removing Floor Mats "Not a Remedy for Underlying Defect"
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/toyota-acceleration-problem-is-still-unresolved/

10小時前New York Times的新聞 "Toyota Acceleration Problem Is Still Unresolved"
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/7_on_your_side&id=7098882

13小時前ABC的專題
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/sudden-acceleration-toyota-cars-owners-rebel-accidents/Story?id=8980479&page=2

17小時前ABC的專題 "Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration
ABC News Investigation Uncovers Reports of 16 Deaths, Over 200 Accidents; Toyota Owners Demand Answers"


前頁所提的DP09001是不同的Case不要混淆, DP09001的case open在2009年的4月8日,
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/results.cfm?action_number=DP09001&SearchType=QuickSearch&summary=true
和聖地牙哥案是不同的案子, 聖地牙哥案還在深入調查中
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白射閃電真無聊(samuelchu)

2009/11/04 21:39:18

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回應 kompressor (KOMPRESSOR) 所寫
真混亂;但這裡有最新NHTSA報告...2009.11.4 07:41AM

Report Date : November 4, 2009 at 07:41 AM
NHTSA Action Number : DP09001




N/A
NHTSA Action Number : DP09001 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A
Make / Models : Model/Build Years:
LEXUS / ES300 2002-2003

LEXUS / ES350 2007

Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC.
Component :
VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL

Date Investigation Opened : April 8, 2009
Date Investigation Closed : October 29, 2009
Summary:
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED DP09-001 ON APRIL 8, 2009, TO EVALUATE A DEFECT PETITION REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION OF POTENTIAL THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM DEFECTS UNRELATED TO FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE WITH ACCELERATOR PEDALS IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 LEXUS ES 350 VEHICLES. THE PETITIONER REFERENCED AN EARLIER ODI INVESTIGATION CONCERNING FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE WITH ACCELERATOR PEDAL RETURN (PE07-016/EA07-010), WHICH HE STATED WAS TOO NARROW IN SCOPE AS IT DID NOT INCLUDE ALL INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION AND CONSIDER ALL POTENTIAL CAUSES OF VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL CONCERNS. THE PETITION ALSO REQUESTED AN "INVESTIGATION OF MY 2002-2003 LEXUS ES300 FOR THOSE 'LONGER DURATION INCIDENTS INVOLVING UNCONTROLLABLE ACCELERATION WHERE BRAKE PEDAL APPLICATION ALLEGEDLY HAD NO EFFECT' THAT WERE DETERMINED NOT TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF INVESTIGATION PE04-021." AS BACKGROUND, THE PETITIONER OWNS A MY 2007 LEXUS ES350 THAT ALLEGEDLY EXPERIENCED AN UNWANTED AND UNCONTROLLED ACCELERATION EVENT (ODI COMPLAINT NUMBER 10261660). TOYOTA CONCLUDED THAT THE INCIDENT WAS CAUSED BY AN UNSECURED FLOOR MAT. TO ASSESS THE PETITIONER'S REQUEST, ODI INTERVIEWED THE PETITIONER, INSPECTED HIS VEHICLE, REVIEWED INFORMATION SUBMITTED BY TOYOTA, REVIEWED OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND MATERIAL RELATED TO THE INVESTIGATIONS CITED BY THE PETITIONER. ODI IDENTIFIED 64 COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF UNWANTED ACCELERATION IN MY 2007 LEXUS VEHICLES, RESULTING IN 8 CRASHES AND 15 INJURIES. ODI'S ANALYSIS OF THESE COMPLAINTS DETERMINED THAT 50 (78%) INVOLVED INCIDENTS OF FLOOR MAT INTERFERENCE, INCLUDING 7 (88%) OF THE CRASHES AND ALL 15 INJURIES. THEREFORE, ODI'S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT THE ONLY DEFECT TREND RELATED TO VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES INVOLVED THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCELERATOR PEDALS TO BECOME TRAPPED NEAR THE FLOOR BY OUT-OF-POSITION OR INAPPROPRIATE FLOOR MAT INSTALLATIONS. ON OCTOBER 5, 2009, TOYOTA INITIATED A SAFETY RECALL (RECALL 09V-388) TO ADDRESS CONCERNS WITH POTENTIAL ACCELERATOR PEDAL ENTRAPMENT BY FLOOR MATS IN APPROXIMATELY 3.8 MILLION VEHICLES, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. EXCEPT INSOFAR AS THE PETITIONER'S CONTENTIONS RELATE TO THAT RECALL, THE FACTUAL BASES OF THE PETITIONER'S CONTENTIONS THAT ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS NECESSARY ARE UNSUPPORTED. IN OUR VIEW, ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN A FINDING THAT A DEFECT RELATED TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY EXISTS OR A NHTSA ORDER FOR THE NOTIFICATION AND REMEDY OF A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT, AS ALLEGED BY THE PETITIONER, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE REQUESTED INVESTIGATION. THEREFORE, IN VIEW OF THE NEED TO ALLOCATE AND PRIORITIZE NHTSA'S LIMITED RESOURCES TO BEST ACCOMPLISH THE AGENCY'S SAFETY MISSION, THE PETITION IS DENIED. THIS ACTION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY NHTSA THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST. THE AGENCY WILL TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY FUTURE CIRCUMSTANCES. PLEASE SEE THE FEDERAL REGISTER NOTICE FOR FURTHER DETAILS.





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製造商: 豐田MOTOR NORTH AMERICA, INC。 組分: 車速度控制 展開的日期調查: 2009年4月8日 结束的日期調查: 2009年10月29日 總結: 瑕疵調查(ODI)在2009年4月8日的被打開的DP09-001辦公室,評估請求瑕疵的請願潛在的节流器控制系統的重新调查在式樣年背叛無關難倒蓆子干涉與油门踏板(我的) 2007輛LEXUS ES 350車。 請願參考了關於地板蓆子干涉的一次更加早期的ODI調查與油门踏板回歸(PE07-016/EA07-010),他陳述是太狹窄的在範圍,因為它沒有包括不需要的加速度所有事件並且沒有考慮車速度控制關心的所有潛在的起因。 請願也請求" 我的那些'的2002-2003 LEXUS ES300的調查; 介入刹车踏板應用涉嫌沒有EFFECT'的無法控制的加速度的更長的期間事件; 確定在調查PE04-021."的範圍內,那不是; 作為背景,請願擁有涉嫌體驗一個不需要和未管制的加速度事件的我的2007 LEXUS ES350 (ODI怨言第10261660)。 豐田认為,事件是由一張無擔保的地板蓆子造成的。 估計PETITIONER' S請求, ODI採訪了請願,被檢查他的車,豐田遞交的被回顧的信息,被回顧的所有者怨言宣稱事件在附屬的車的不需要的加速度和物質相關對請願援引的调查。 ODI辨認了64怨言宣稱不需要的加速度事件在我的2007輛LEXUS車的,造成8崩潰和15傷害。 ODI' 對這些怨言的S分析確定50 (78%)介入了地板蓆子干涉事件,包括7 (88%)崩潰和所有15傷害。 因此, ODI' S分析发现唯一的瑕疵趨向与車在附屬的車的速度控制有关介入了在油门踏板的潛力变得設陷井在地板附近由OUT-OF-POSITION或不適當的地板蓆子設施。 在2009年10月5日,豐田創始安全回憶(回憶09V-388)由在大约3.8百萬輛車的FLOOR MATS表达关心潛在的油门踏板陷害,包括附屬的車。 除了,只要PETITIONER' S角逐與那種回憶, PETITIONER'的事實基地关连; S角逐所有进一步调查是必要的是無支持的。 在我們的意图,重新调查是不太可能导致发现瑕疵与机动车安全有关存在或一個安全有關的瑕疵的通知和補救的一個NHTSA指令,如宣稱由請願,在請求的調查結束時。 因此,由於需要分配和給予NHTSA'優先; 對最好的S有限的资金完成AGENCY' S安全使命,請願被否認。 這次行動不由NHTSA構成發現一個安全有關的瑕疵不存在。 代辦處將采取进一步行动,如果擔保在FUTURE CIRCUMSTANCES之前。 請看見联邦公报通知关于进一步細節。

大熊一百零六(orangebear1006)

2009/11/04 23:22:53

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有沒有人可以說中文的?
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