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回應 12119 (坐禪郎) 所寫原廠是指台灣原廠?😞😰
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2011/08/10 19:05:56
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😌😌只要敢掰,不愁沒人相信😌,就怕你不掰😆
#44
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2011/08/10 22:24:25
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TOTAL Quartz Ineo MC3 汽油車也可以用 因為有API SM認證 (260/1L 是水貨價)
Total Qurrtz 9000 Future 5w-30 汽油車可用 柴油車部分可用 (特別是 FORD/ Volvo 體系)
另外 台灣還有一瓶很少人見過的 Quartz 9000 Future SMX 5w30 (U-Car應該不會超過10個人知道有這瓶吧)
Total Qurrtz 9000 Future 5w-30 汽油車可用 柴油車部分可用 (特別是 FORD/ Volvo 體系)
另外 台灣還有一瓶很少人見過的 Quartz 9000 Future SMX 5w30 (U-Car應該不會超過10個人知道有這瓶吧)
Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDI , TOTAL ENERGY 9000 0w-30 + ETS Power + Simota OV001 ==> 28.6KM/L
Skoda Fans Club http://fans.skoda.club.tw/
Msn:allen@mis.idv.tw
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呆丸唬特的 FOCUS / MONDEO柴油款的車主手冊都是註明使用Ford WSS-M2C 913-B or C
也不知道有沒有COPY錯，這個古早規格，是強調 Low HTHS and FE(Fuel Economy) , 一路走來始終如一,但是就低硫低磷的要求來說，913-B應該是會噴煙或需要DPF的, 913-C 也沒低到哪去
客官詳見我這個盜來的連結圖就可略之一二了
#46
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2011/08/11 11:01:49
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有DPF 的車 還是吃 Mid SAPS 或是 Low SAPS 避免塞住DPF
最常見的規格是 C3 所以大部分人會說要吃C3的機油
最常見的規格是 C3 所以大部分人會說要吃C3的機油
Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDI , TOTAL ENERGY 9000 0w-30 + ETS Power + Simota OV001 ==> 28.6KM/L
Skoda Fans Club http://fans.skoda.club.tw/
Msn:allen@mis.idv.tw
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根據下列賓士MB-Approval 229.51的認證名單
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
ARAL有229.51認證的機油為下列三瓶
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40德國網購價格為 一公升一瓶售價5.9歐元 5,90 EUR
一瓶約台幣240元
http://www.oeldepot24.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_35_29&products_id=56
認證為
ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3 und C2
API SM / CF
MB Freigabe 229.31 und 229.51
VW 502 00 und 505 00
BMW Longlife-04
Porsche-Freigabe (außer Cayenne V6)
Aral Supertronic 5W-30 Longlife III 德國網購價格為 一公升一瓶售價5.75歐元 5,75 EUR
一瓶約台幣230元
http://www.oeldepot24.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_35_29&products_id=58
根據德國賓士的原廠機由認證分類說明文件編號SHEET 221.0--> Requirements in respect of engine oils
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_221_0.pdf
有MB 229.31 及 MB 229.51認證等級的機油才是等同於ACEA C3認證的機油
Sheet 229.31 (multigrade oils with low sulfur content, low
phosphor content and low content of ash>forming components >
"Low SPAsh oils")
These "Low SPAsh"
Sheet 229.51 (multigrade oils with low sulfur content, low
phosphor content and low content of ash>forming components >
"Low SPAsh oils"
What is sheet 229.51?
A passenger vehicle engine oil specification for "Low SPAsh" low>
friction engine oils at the highest performance level (2nd
generation "Low SPAsh" low>friction engine oils, with the
performance capability described in sheet 229.5), i.e. with the
most stringent limits with regard to wear and cleanliness.
These oils are outstanding because they provide the best possible
protection from black sludge formation and deposits. They also
have improved fuel economy potential (fuel economy benefit in
the M111 FE test CEC SG>L54 > 1.7 % = Sheet 229.5 level), and
improved environmental compatibility.
What are the most important requirements and tests for a release
as far as sheet 229.51 is concerned?
Laboratory
tests: Sulfur < 0.20 % by weight,
Phosphor < 0.08 % by weight,
Sulfated ash < 0.8 % by weight,
Chlorine < 0.005 % by weight,
TBN (neutralization capability) > 6.0 mg KOH/g
Engine test:
M 271 Wear test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
M271 Sludge test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
M 111 Fuel Economy test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
(>1.7 %)
OM 611 DE22LA test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
OM 602 A test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
Plus other ACEA and OEM tests: Pass ACEA A3, B4, C3, VW TDI,VW
T4, .....
The basic requirements of ACEA test sequences A3>04, B4>04 and
C3>04 apply to these engine oils. Beyond this are the more
comprehensive specifications of Daimler AG. Approvals are only
possible for low>friction engine oils that comply with the low
limits with regard to sulfur, phosphor content and the content of
ash>forming components. The detailed requirements for an
approval of these high>performance engine oils are listed in the
table "Mercedes>Benz specifications for engine oils (service fill)".
ARAL及加實多Castrol都被英國石油bp併購
http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9&contentId=7046348
國外的新包裝ARAL不是都改成與加實多Castrol一樣的包裝
應該都是英國石油bp製造的
加實多Castrol不就是BMW與VW的原廠機油的供應協力廠商
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.51_en.html
ARAL有229.51認證的機油為下列三瓶
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40德國網購價格為 一公升一瓶售價5.9歐元 5,90 EUR
一瓶約台幣240元
http://www.oeldepot24.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_35_29&products_id=56
認證為
ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3 und C2
API SM / CF
MB Freigabe 229.31 und 229.51
VW 502 00 und 505 00
BMW Longlife-04
Porsche-Freigabe (außer Cayenne V6)
Aral Supertronic 5W-30 Longlife III 德國網購價格為 一公升一瓶售價5.75歐元 5,75 EUR
一瓶約台幣230元
http://www.oeldepot24.de/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_35_29&products_id=58
根據德國賓士的原廠機由認證分類說明文件編號SHEET 221.0--> Requirements in respect of engine oils
http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_221_0.pdf
有MB 229.31 及 MB 229.51認證等級的機油才是等同於ACEA C3認證的機油
Sheet 229.31 (multigrade oils with low sulfur content, low
phosphor content and low content of ash>forming components >
"Low SPAsh oils")
These "Low SPAsh"
Sheet 229.51 (multigrade oils with low sulfur content, low
phosphor content and low content of ash>forming components >
"Low SPAsh oils"
What is sheet 229.51?
A passenger vehicle engine oil specification for "Low SPAsh" low>
friction engine oils at the highest performance level (2nd
generation "Low SPAsh" low>friction engine oils, with the
performance capability described in sheet 229.5), i.e. with the
most stringent limits with regard to wear and cleanliness.
These oils are outstanding because they provide the best possible
protection from black sludge formation and deposits. They also
have improved fuel economy potential (fuel economy benefit in
the M111 FE test CEC SG>L54 > 1.7 % = Sheet 229.5 level), and
improved environmental compatibility.
What are the most important requirements and tests for a release
as far as sheet 229.51 is concerned?
Laboratory
tests: Sulfur < 0.20 % by weight,
Phosphor < 0.08 % by weight,
Sulfated ash < 0.8 % by weight,
Chlorine < 0.005 % by weight,
TBN (neutralization capability) > 6.0 mg KOH/g
Engine test:
M 271 Wear test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
M271 Sludge test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
M 111 Fuel Economy test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
(>1.7 %)
OM 611 DE22LA test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
OM 602 A test Pass acc. 229.5/.51 Limits
Plus other ACEA and OEM tests: Pass ACEA A3, B4, C3, VW TDI,VW
T4, .....
The basic requirements of ACEA test sequences A3>04, B4>04 and
C3>04 apply to these engine oils. Beyond this are the more
comprehensive specifications of Daimler AG. Approvals are only
possible for low>friction engine oils that comply with the low
limits with regard to sulfur, phosphor content and the content of
ash>forming components. The detailed requirements for an
approval of these high>performance engine oils are listed in the
table "Mercedes>Benz specifications for engine oils (service fill)".
ARAL及加實多Castrol都被英國石油bp併購
http://www.bp.com/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9&contentId=7046348
國外的新包裝ARAL不是都改成與加實多Castrol一樣的包裝
應該都是英國石油bp製造的
加實多Castrol不就是BMW與VW的原廠機油的供應協力廠商
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ARAL有229.51認證的機油為下列三瓶
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III
這三瓶德國的官網都有介紹為德國轎車的主要產品Aral Schmierstoffe
德國ARAL官網也有介紹嘉實多機油Castrol Schmierstoffe
機油的德文為 Schmierstoffe
http://www.aral.de/aral/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9035294&contentId=7065407
http://www.aral.de/aral/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9029138&contentId=7053122
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III
這三瓶德國的官網都有介紹為德國轎車的主要產品Aral Schmierstoffe
德國ARAL官網也有介紹嘉實多機油Castrol Schmierstoffe
機油的德文為 Schmierstoffe
http://www.aral.de/aral/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9035294&contentId=7065407
http://www.aral.de/aral/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9029138&contentId=7053122
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補充ARAL官網找到的認證資料供參考
http://www.aral.de/aral/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9035294&contentId=7065407
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III 5W-30
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3; VW 504 00/ 507 00; BMW Longlife-04; Porsche C30
下列為Aral SuperTronic LongLife III 5W-30產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
*- the solution for VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda cars
•meets the highest demands on the wear protection
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•suitable for all service intervals (WIV)
•saves fuel and protects the environment
* Except for R5 and V10 TDI engine in the Phaeton and Touareg through model year 2006
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API SM/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3; VW 502 00/ 505 00; BMW Longlife-04; MB-Freigabe 229.31/ 229.51; Porsche A40
下列為Aral SuperTronic 0W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Fully synthetic high performance motor oil for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•Security for your engine at the same oil change intervals
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•high fuel economy (an average of 3%) and improved exhaust emissions
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API CF; ACEA B4, C2, C3; VW 505 00; BMW Longlife-04; MB-Freigabe 229.31/ 229.51
下列為Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Fully synthetic high performance motor oil for passenger car diesel engines with and without particulate filter
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•Security for your diesel engine with the same oil change intervals
•high fuel economy (an average of 3%) and improved exhaust emissions
Aral BlueTronic 10W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API SL/CF; ACEA A3/B4; VW 501 01/ 505 00; MB-Freigabe 229.1
下列為Aral BlueTronic 10W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Low-friction engine oil with Aral Synth-Technology
•Security for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•helps save fuel
Aral Tronic 15W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:API SH/CG-4; ACEA A2/B2; MB-Freigabe 229.1
下列為Aral Tronic 15W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•specializes in older cars: performance for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•Multigrade engine oil based on mineral oil
•coordinated combination of additives for cars with higher mileage
http://www.aral.de/aral/extendedsectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9035294&contentId=7065407
Aral SuperTronic LongLife III 5W-30
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3; VW 504 00/ 507 00; BMW Longlife-04; Porsche C30
下列為Aral SuperTronic LongLife III 5W-30產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
*- the solution for VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda cars
•meets the highest demands on the wear protection
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•suitable for all service intervals (WIV)
•saves fuel and protects the environment
* Except for R5 and V10 TDI engine in the Phaeton and Touareg through model year 2006
Aral SuperTronic 0W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API SM/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C3; VW 502 00/ 505 00; BMW Longlife-04; MB-Freigabe 229.31/ 229.51; Porsche A40
下列為Aral SuperTronic 0W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Fully synthetic high performance motor oil for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•Security for your engine at the same oil change intervals
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•high fuel economy (an average of 3%) and improved exhaust emissions
Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API CF; ACEA B4, C2, C3; VW 505 00; BMW Longlife-04; MB-Freigabe 229.31/ 229.51
下列為Aral SuperTronic Diesel 0W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Fully synthetic high performance motor oil for passenger car diesel engines with and without particulate filter
•Aral Low SAPS technology for maximum capacity of the diesel particulate filter
•Security for your diesel engine with the same oil change intervals
•high fuel economy (an average of 3%) and improved exhaust emissions
Aral BlueTronic 10W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:
API SL/CF; ACEA A3/B4; VW 501 01/ 505 00; MB-Freigabe 229.1
下列為Aral BlueTronic 10W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•Low-friction engine oil with Aral Synth-Technology
•Security for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•helps save fuel
Aral Tronic 15W-40
認證資料
Spezifikationen/Freigaben:API SH/CG-4; ACEA A2/B2; MB-Freigabe 229.1
下列為Aral Tronic 15W-40產品簡介,由GOOGLE德文翻成英文的資料,僅供參考
•specializes in older cars: performance for passenger car gasoline and diesel engines
•Multigrade engine oil based on mineral oil
•coordinated combination of additives for cars with higher mileage
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你是說這罐嗎？😊😊😊
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2011/08/11 18:39:21
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yes
新入手的???
新入手的???
Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDI , TOTAL ENERGY 9000 0w-30 + ETS Power + Simota OV001 ==> 28.6KM/L
Skoda Fans Club http://fans.skoda.club.tw/
Msn:allen@mis.idv.tw
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補充
ARAL官網對母公司bp英國石油的產品連結
http://www.aral-heizoel.de/amv/reitberger/weitere_produkte/bp_schmierstoffe.html
ARAL官網對母公司bp英國石油的產品連結
http://www.aral-heizoel.de/amv/reitberger/weitere_produkte/bp_schmierstoffe.html
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是啊！今天下午去倉庫買的...😍
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2011/08/12 01:22:11
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台南衝來高雄買喔 ~~ 😀
Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDI , TOTAL ENERGY 9000 0w-30 + ETS Power + Simota OV001 ==> 28.6KM/L
Skoda Fans Club http://fans.skoda.club.tw/
Msn:allen@mis.idv.tw
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2011/08/12 01:57:00
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我還是比較習慣 Energy9000、MC3、Future .... 等等 法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多
光看包裝上一堆歐規車廠認證，看了就比鐵罐上（只有API、ILSAC ... ） 還爽上 1000 倍 😆
我知道陰影在那裡，但我寧願往前看有陽光的地方 ---電影‧美麗人生
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台南衝來高雄買喔 ~~ 😀 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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我人在高雄打拼奮鬥😇
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我還是比較習慣 Energy9000、MC3、Future .... 等等 法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多 光看包裝上一堆歐規車廠認證，看了就比鐵罐上（只有API、ILSAC ... ） 還爽上 1000 倍 😆 | ||||||||||||
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買一罐來玩玩而已...我也覺得法國製的看起來比較爽😆
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2011/08/12 11:31:12
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2011/08/12 11:31:12
發文IP 242.43.*.*
[quote=marchchen (marchchen)][quote=qwe05200331 (隆隆九)]你是說這罐嗎？[害羞][害羞][害羞]
[img]http://attach.u-forum.com.tw/attach_445403.jpg[/img][/quote]
我還是比較習慣 Energy9000、MC3、Future .... 等等 法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多
光看包裝上一堆歐規車廠認證，看了就比鐵罐上（只有API、ILSAC ... ） 還爽上 1000 倍 [傻笑][/quote]
我家小黑也愛喝 "法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多" [害羞][害羞]
[color="#FFFF00"]以前小黑都喝中油的SJ，三千就覺得衰退[/color][很悶]
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2011/08/12 11:31:35
發文IP 242.43.*.*
[quote=marchchen (marchchen)]
我還是比較習慣 Energy9000、MC3、Future .... 等等 法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多
光看包裝上一堆歐規車廠認證，看了就比鐵罐上（只有API、ILSAC ... ） 還爽上 1000 倍 [傻笑][/quote]
我家小黑也愛喝 "法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多" [害羞][害羞]
[color="#FFFF00"]以前小黑都喝中油的SJ，三千就覺得衰退[/color][很悶]
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我還是比較習慣 Energy9000、MC3、Future .... 等等 法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多 光看包裝上一堆歐規車廠認證，看了就比鐵罐上（只有API、ILSAC ... ） 還爽上 1000 倍 😆 | |||
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我家小黑也愛喝 "法國製造法國進口的 塑膠罐多多" 😊😊
以前小黑都喝中油的SJ，三千就覺得衰退😞
校長說：人不捅你，代表人你不夠紅；你不捅人，代表你不想紅。
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都差不多;要不然換SHELL 5W30 ;
有ACEA C2/C3(A3/B3/B4)
BMW LL-04
MB-Approval 229.51
MB-Approval 229.31
VW 504 00/507 00
Porsche C30
Chrysler MS-11106
Fiat 9.55535S1
夠吧!!
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都差不多;要不然換SHELL 5W30 ; 有ACEA C2/C3(A3/B3/B4) BMW LL-04 MB-Approval 229.51 恕刪 | |||
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殼牌的5W30比道達爾的貴約50/L
應該是認證較多的原因吧?
我買TOTAL QUARTZ INEO MC3 大約250/L
SHELL的大約接近300/L
但我對殼牌的印象不太好..
因家中都是寶獅的車輛,
就對配合的零件商TOTAL 跟米寶寶的印象特別好..😊
妙語如珠人又帥 法理反覆車帶賽 村民見朕快硊拜 正是神人下凡來
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老闆有說，從08年的柴蟒，就有人用這支到現在，也沒出現什麼問題! 當然.相不相信再於個人. | ||||||||||||
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這支油有沒有問題我不知道,我都用Aral SuperTronic LongLife III 5W-30
"會上"賣油的爭眼說瞎話,因為他們也曾想唬爛我買油.......
我真的很看不起嗯嗯c那一小撮人,瞎掰,硬扯😞
我繳稅是為了給國家揮霍
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