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[轉貼]Consumer Reports: Honda CR-Vs plagued by engine trouble

Super(eric.huang.1968)

2018/10/07 01:10:47

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2018/10/07 01:12:14

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Consumer Reports: Honda CR-Vs plagued by engine trouble

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/cars/consumer-reports-honda-cr-v-engine-trouble/index.html

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN Business 

Updated 3:37 PM EDT, Fri October 05, 2018

(CNN)The Honda CR-V, one of the most popular vehicles in America, is plagued by a potentially dangerous engine problem that could cause the small SUVs to lose power or even stall, according to Consumer Reports magazine.

In some CR-Vs, gasoline can leak into the SUV's engine oil. That can eventually cause the engine to lose power or stall completely. Several Consumer Reports subscribers reported the issue which has also been the subject of of dozens of complaints to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, according to the magazine. Many more owners have complained of the problem in online forums, Consumer Reports said.

Several CR-V owners have posted complaints with NHTSA reporting a strong smell of unburned gasoline as a result of fuel getting into the engine's lubricating oil.

A Honda spokesman took issue with Consumer Reports' contention that the problem is widespread, saying there are hundreds of thousands of CR-Vs on the road so a problem affecting even a tiny percentage of them could result in a fairly large number of complaints.

Honda's Chris Martin said the automaker is working to figure out a fix for the problem and hopes to have one ready by mid-November. Honda does not consider the problem to be a safety threat requiring a recall. Owners with concerns about the problem should visit a Honda dealer for an inspection. Any needed repairs will be covered under their warranty, the automaker said.

Consumer Reports counters that the issue is, indeed, safety related.

"There are many ways stalling can be a safety issue, so if these cars are stalling, they need to be recalled," said David Friedman, vice president for Advocacy at Consumer Reports and a former acting NHTSA director.

The problem occurs in 2017 and 2018 CR-Vs with Honda's new 1.5-liter turbocharged engine. Somehow, gasoline is getting into the car's lubricating oil which should not normally happen, Consumer Reports said. That dilutes the engine oil making it less effective at lubricating the engine. Over time, that can lead to engine damage and loss of power or stalling, especially on cold days or in heavy traffic.

Honda says the problem has occurred mostly in northern parts of the country during short drives in extreme cold weather. Consumer Reports said the problem had been reported to the magazine by CR-V owners as far south as Texas and New Mexico.

Honda spokesman Martin took issue with Consumer Reports' contention that the problem is geographically more widespread than the automaker saysHonda also pointed out that it is normal for small amounts of gasoline to find their way into the engine's oil but it usually burns away during continued driving.

"While others may easily complain online of experiencing something similar under other circumstances," Martin said in an email, "it is premature and a bit irresponsible to link them all together without physical inspections of the vehicles, which is what [Consumer Reports] has done here."

Honda has recalled CR-Vs in China for a similar issue. But, Honda said those vehicles do not have precisely the same engine used in CR-Vs sold in the United States,

When an automaker issues a safety recall in the United States, it is legally required to fix the problem, at no charge to the owner, in all potentially affected vehicles. Automakers frequently do other sorts of updates and fixes to vehicles, at their discretion, without necessarily fixing the problem in all vehicles.

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Consumer Reports: Honda CR-Vs plagued by engine trouble

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-repair-maintenance/honda-cr-v-affected-by-engine-trouble/

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/cars/consumer-reports-honda-cr-v-engine-trouble/index.html

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNN Business 

Updated 3:37 PM EDT, Fri October 05, 2018

(CNN)The Honda CR-V, one of the most popular vehicles in America, is plagued by a potentially dangerous engine problem that could cause the small SUVs to lose power or even stall, according to Consumer Reports magazine.

In some CR-Vs, gasoline can leak into the SUV's engine oil. That can eventually cause the engine to lose power or stall completely. Several Consumer Reports subscribers reported the issue which has also been the subject of of dozens of complaints to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, according to the magazine. Many more owners have complained of the problem in online forums, Consumer Reports said.

Several CR-V owners have posted complaints with NHTSA reporting a strong smell of unburned gasoline as a result of fuel getting into the engine's lubricating oil.

A Honda spokesman took issue with Consumer Reports' contention that the problem is widespread, saying there are hundreds of thousands of CR-Vs on the road so a problem affecting even a tiny percentage of them could result in a fairly large number of complaints.

Honda's Chris Martin said the automaker is working to figure out a fix for the problem and hopes to have one ready by mid-November. Honda does not consider the problem to be a safety threat requiring a recall. Owners with concerns about the problem should visit a Honda dealer for an inspection. Any needed repairs will be covered under their warranty, the automaker said.

Consumer Reports counters that the issue is, indeed, safety related.

"There are many ways stalling can be a safety issue, so if these cars are stalling, they need to be recalled," said David Friedman, vice president for Advocacy at Consumer Reports and a former acting NHTSA director.

The problem occurs in 2017 and 2018 CR-Vs with Honda's new 1.5-liter turbocharged engine. Somehow, gasoline is getting into the car's lubricating oil which should not normally happen, Consumer Reports said. That dilutes the engine oil making it less effective at lubricating the engine. Over time, that can lead to engine damage and loss of power or stalling, especially on cold days or in heavy traffic.

Honda says the problem has occurred mostly in northern parts of the country during short drives in extreme cold weather. Consumer Reports said the problem had been reported to the magazine by CR-V owners as far south as Texas and New Mexico.

Honda spokesman Martin took issue with Consumer Reports' contention that the problem is geographically more widespread than the automaker saysHonda also pointed out that it is normal for small amounts of gasoline to find their way into the engine's oil but it usually burns away during continued driving.

"While others may easily complain online of experiencing something similar under other circumstances," Martin said in an email, "it is premature and a bit irresponsible to link them all together without physical inspections of the vehicles, which is what [Consumer Reports] has done here."

Honda has recalled CR-Vs in China for a similar issue. But, Honda said those vehicles do not have precisely the same engine used in CR-Vs sold in the United States,

When an automaker issues a safety recall in the United States, it is legally required to fix the problem, at no charge to the owner, in all potentially affected vehicles. Automakers frequently do other sorts of updates and fixes to vehicles, at their discretion, without necessarily fixing the problem in all vehicles.

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Super(eric.huang.1968)

2018/10/07 01:23:29

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只能說,美國的消費者很幸福,車不貴又有ConsumerReport為消費者發聲,CNN也會報導。台灣呢!?

已臻完美,何需苛求!

jasonguo(jasonguo)

2018/10/07 07:41:36

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回應 eric.huang.1968(Super)所寫

 

只能說,美國的消費者很幸福,車不貴又有ConsumerReport為消費者發聲,CNN也會報導。台灣呢!?

 

組裝廠不倒,台灣不會好,很快的等這些組裝廠全倒閉了後,台灣未來也會很幸福

全部都改為進口車後,就可以依照ConsumerReport來買車了,很快的,不用再等多久

桃園汽車大廠傳放無薪假? 經濟部:是彈性調整有薪假

Super(eric.huang.1968)

2018/10/07 13:32:02

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2018/10/07 13:35:59

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今天10/7日終於看到U-CAR也率先報導美國CR-V引擎問題了,給U-CAR大大的讚。有盡到媒體的責任!😃😄😆

https://am.u-car.com.tw/article.asp?articleid=43811

2018/10/07 14:27:25

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今天10/7日終於看到U-CAR也率先報導美國CR-V引擎問題了,給U-CAR大大的讚。有盡到媒體的責任!😃😄😆

機油油位異常升高、發生數起熄火案例,美規Honda CR-V將於11月中展開召回

https://am.u-car.com.tw/article.asp?articleid=43811

今天10/7日終於看到U-CAR也率先報導美國CR-V的引擎問題了,給U-CAR大大的讚。有盡到媒體的責任!😃😄😆

機油油位異常升高、發生數起熄火案例,美規Honda CR-V將於11月中展開召回

https://am.u-car.com.tw/article.asp?articleid=43811

 

已臻完美,何需苛求!

你有freestyle嗎(jazzcat)

2018/10/07 23:37:22

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回應 jasonguo(jasonguo)所寫

 

回應 eric.huang.1968(Super)所寫

 

只能說,美國的消費者很幸福,車不貴又有ConsumerReport為消費者發聲,CNN也會報導。台灣呢!?

 

組裝廠不倒,台灣不會好,很快的等這些組裝廠全倒閉了後,台灣未來也會很幸福

全部都改為進口車後,就可以依照ConsumerReport來買車了,很快的,不用再等多久

桃園汽車大廠傳放無薪假? 經濟部:是彈性調整有薪假

 

連NCAP或者IIHS的撞測都能參考了~完美的

Super(eric.huang.1968)

2018/10/08 22:01:53

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10/8又見一汽車媒體報導了

北美上百名車主回報《Honda CR-V》1.5升渦輪引擎發生故障問題

https://www.kingautos.net/226617

已臻完美,何需苛求!

氣噗噗(airstage)

2018/10/08 23:32:45

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回應 eric.huang.1968(Super)所寫

 

10/8又見一汽車媒體報導了

北美上百名車主回報《Honda CR-V》1.5升渦輪引擎發生故障問題

https://www.kingautos.net/226617

 

不知道台灣會不會也發生同樣狀況

jasonguo(jasonguo)

2018/10/09 07:57:57

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回應 airstage(氣噗噗)所寫

 

回應 eric.huang.1968(Super)所寫

 

10/8又見一汽車媒體報導了

北美上百名車主回報《Honda CR-V》1.5升渦輪引擎發生故障問題

https://www.kingautos.net/226617

 

不知道台灣會不會也發生同樣狀況

 

台灣車子的引擎有特別為台灣設計嗎?如果沒有,你說呢?還是說台灣因為地靈人傑,此事件不會發生。

氣噗噗(airstage)

2018/10/10 00:31:07

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回應 jasonguo(jasonguo)所寫

 

回應 airstage(氣噗噗)所寫

 

回應 eric.huang.1968(Super)所寫

 

10/8又見一汽車媒體報導了

北美上百名車主回報《Honda CR-V》1.5升渦輪引擎發生故障問題

https://www.kingautos.net/226617

 

不知道台灣會不會也發生同樣狀況

 

台灣車子的引擎有特別為台灣設計嗎?如果沒有,你說呢?還是說台灣因為地靈人傑,此事件不會發生。

 

今天看到一些討論,台灣還真有可能地靈人傑所以沒有問題。跟當初中國的狀況台灣沒問題差不多,氣溫要夠低,這顆引擎才會出包,台灣不夠冷,這算不算台灣地靈人傑此事件不會發生😂

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